HC Deb 15 December 1959 vol 615 cc1254-65

3.45 p.m.

Mr. G. W. Reynolds (Islington, North)

I beg to move, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to increase benefits under the National Insurance Acts, 1946 to 1959. The Bill which I hope the House will give me leave to introduce intimately affects the lives of over 6 million people. I hope that it will not be made a party political issue. I will deal straight away with the party political point and then go on to explain what my proposed Bill is designed to achieve.

First, I claim that the biggest single increase in the National Insurance pension was made by a Labour Government in 1948, and, at present, I am prepared quite readily to admit that the pensioner is 4s. to 5s. a week better off than he was in 1948. But is this enough? I gave notice of my intention to introduce the Bill a fortnight ago in the hope that, in the intervening 14 days, the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance might himself come to the House with proposals for increasing National Insurance benefits. That has not happened. Therefore, I must ask the House to give me leave to introduce my Bill.

On 6th November, 1957, just over two years ago, the Minister last came to the House with proposals to increase National Insurance benefits. Since then, much has happened. We know, for example, that in October, 1957, the average wages of earnings of workers in manufacturing and certain other industries were £10 12s. 5d. a week. In April, 1959, about ten months ago, according to the latest figures available, that average had increased to £11 2s. 6d. The majority of people, apart from pensioners, have had an increase in wages or income of over 10s. a week since the National Insurance benefits were last adjusted. This makes it imperative that we should now take action to allow people on National Insurance benefits of one kind or another to catch up with the increase in wages which has occurred for the wage earning section of the population.

Since 1947, when the pension of 26s. a week was first introduced, earnings have increased by 115 per cent., yet National Insurance benefits have increased by only 92 per cent. There should be an increase of 6s. a week in the basic National Insurance benefit to ensure that National Insurance beneficiaries receive an increase in their rates corresponding with the increase which wage earners have received since the pension was introduced. That would merely put the National Insurance beneficiary on the same sort of footing as the wage earner.

Our present social security scheme is, to a large extent, based on the Report of Sir William Beveridge, as he then was, on Social Insurance and Allied Services. In paragraph 27, he said that … determination of what is required for reasonable human subsistence is to some extent a matter of judgment We can, I think, all agree with that. He went on to say that estimates on this point change with time, and generally, in a progressive community, change upwards. I submit that we have not sufficiently revised upwards the general level of subsistence on which National Insurance beneficiaries should live in accordance with the general increase in the standard of living which has occurred since 1942, when Sir William Beveridge made his proposals.

Sir William proposed a basic pension of 24s. a week. The National Insurance Act, 1946. fixed the basic benefit at 26s. a week, which, in real terms, was about 6d. a week more than the original proposal for 24s. We have now a basic benefit of 50s. which, again, in real terms, is about 5s. a week more than Sir William Beveridge proposed. I submit that to be thinking now, in 1959, seventeen years after the Beveridge Report, that we can afford to give only 5s. a week more to National Insurance beneficiaries than the level of subsistence thought of in the middle of the most devasting war we have ever experienced shows that we have reached a quite fantastic situation. Surely, our standard of life, our economy and our financial position have improved sufficiently since 1942 to enable us to give to National Insurance beneficiaries a little more than 5s. a week on top of what was thought possible in the dark days of war.

My proposed Bill will provide for an increase of 10s. a week in the basic rate of National Insurance benefit for pensioners, the unemployed, the sick and one or two other classes. I understand—and I must inform the House of this—from the statement made by the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance in Standing Committee A, on 5th March this year, that such an increase would cost £161 million per year.

I would also propose, in my Bill, to make certain minor increases in children's and other allowances under the National Insurance scheme. I understand that the actual total expenditure would be about £200 million per year. My Bill would propose, if it is necessary to propose, that the expenditure should, of course, be met from the National Insurance Fund and the National Insurance Reserve Fund, which are the sources from which the pension is met at present.

Hon. Members would probably like to know the amount of money now available in these funds. In the National Insurance Fund there is £354 million and in the National Insurance Reserve Fund, £878 million. Those figures are the actual price at which the assets held by these funds could be realised in the present-day market because most of the money is in Government securities of one kind or another. The actual cost of these securities in the Reserve Fund was £1,200 million, but, because of the Government's financial policy during the last few years, the value of these stocks on the market has dropped so considerably that the fund stands to lose about £100 million. Nevertheless, there is a total in those two funds at the moment of £1,232 million, which is laid down quite clearly in the accounts, and which is sufficient to meet the expenditure involved in my Bill for several years to come.

I realise that in altering National Insurance benefits it is advisable to adjust other benefits, such as National Assistance, industrial injuries and war pensions, but my Bill will deal only with National Insurance benefits. Unfortunately, as a private Member it is not possible for me to take action of this nature in relation to National Assistance and war pensions. If the Government are prepared to find time for my Bill to go forward, I should be only too pleased at a later date to endeavour to do something for the industrial injuries pensioner, and I hope that the Government will deal with National Assistance and war pensions.

I do not think that 10s. a week is enough, but it is the best that I can put forward at the moment as a private Member in a proposal to the House, knowing that there is money to meet it. If, before my Bill should receive a Second Reading in the House, the Government themselves are prepared to bring forward their own proposals to deal with this matter, I shall be only too happy to withdraw my Bill in favour of any such Government Bill.

I hope that the House will give me leave to introduce the Bill this afternoon and that it will not be blocked in the many ways possible for such Bills to be blocked, so that we can really do something at this stage to try to give the pensioner, the sick, the unemployed and other National Insurance beneficiaries the standard of living to which they are entitled in a country where, we are told, they have never had it so good.

3.54 p.m.

Mr. Denzil Freeth (Basingstoke)

I ask the House to reject the Motion which has been put forward with his customary fluency and knowledge of the subject by the hon. Gentleman the Member for Islington, North (Mr. Reynolds).

There is one thing which he did not mention in his survey of how the Government had acted towards the old and the infirm. He did not mention, for example, the increase in the National Assistance rates which my right hon. Friend initiated as long ago as last July, with the result that when the winter began old-age pensioners at the bottom end of the income scale had already a standard of living higher than ever before in the history of this country.

In addition to the basic National Insurance rate of 85s. a week, for a married couple, it is commonly known that the couple will also get a rent and rates allowance. This, according to the 1958 Report of the National Assistance Board, averaged no less than 18s. 6d. per household over the country. Since the National Insurance pension was last raised, two years ago, the cost of living has been virtually steady. Indeed, it is worth noting that the increase in National Assistance which my right hon. Friend initiated last July was the first increase since the war in which National Assistance was raised without the cost of living having risen. We were able to make that increase because the industrial recovery of the country was already far advanced.

I ask the House to reject the Motion, because I do not believe that our industrial recovery has yet taken place to a sufficient extent to have created the necessary wealth to enable an increase in pensions to be made. The hon. Member proposes an increase of 10s. a week in the basic retirement pension for a single person. I notice that he proposes not to increase the rate for a married couple more than the rate for a single person. At the General Election, one thing that the electorate found extraordinarily difficult to understand in the proposals of members of the party opposite was that, unlike any other social students, they believe that two people can live as cheaply as one.

In producing his proposed Bill, the hon. Member had to find the money from somewhere. He evidently did not feel that he could ask the Government for a Money Resolution if his Motion went through, because he proposes to charge the £200 million a year upon the National Insurance Fund, which now stands at a level that would raise just over £1,200 million.

It is worth recalling that we are already running down the National Insurance Fund as a bridging operation before our main superannuation scheme with graded pensions begins. We are running it down at the rate of about £50 million a year. I regard it as rather bad finance and not prudent husbandry to run down the Fund at a rate of £200 million a year over and above the present bridging operation, which entails a reduction of £50 million a year. When we run down the National Insurance Fund, the securities have to be sold in the market. The Government's funding programme thereby becomes more difficult. To that extent, fresh savings are swallowed up and the Government—

Major Sir Frank Markham (Buckingham)

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. May we be told whether it is in order for a private Member to introduce legislation involving enormous charges on thy Exchequer without the House being able to consider a Money Resolution?

Mr. Speaker

The charge is not upon the Exchequer. That is the distinction. The proposed Bill purports to put the charge upon the National Insurance Fund.

Sir F. Markham

Surely, many of the contributions to these sources are borne by the Exchequer.

Mr. Speaker

The proposed Bill is in order, because it does not increase them.

Mr. Freeth

What the proposed Bill does is to make it much harder for the Chancellor of the Exchequer to manage the gilt-edged market. It would undoubtedly have a budgetary effect—[Interruption.] If the Government do not manage the gilt-edged market, they cannot do any funding. Hon. Members opposite should try to learn something about the money market.

In addition, as the hon. Member for Islington, North admitted, we could not give the increases in National Insurance pensions which he proposes without, at the same time, making a proposal to increase National Assistance, war pensions and industrial injuries benefits. Therefore, we would find ourselves in the position that the total amount to be paid out annually, above what is at present paid out, would be not £200 million, but a sum greatly in excess of that figure.

We all know the record of the Socialist Government when in power. From 1946 to 1951 the purchasing power of the pension declined steadily every year. Throughout those five years of Socialism, the pensioner found himself with an equal share in Socialist misery. The record of this Government is one which convinced the electorate, only a month or two ago, that our election pledges were worth believing and that the promises of the party opposite were not worth the paper on which they were written. If the electorate had thought otherwise, hon. Members opposite would today be sitting at your right hand, Mr. Speaker.

Most of the National Insurance benefits are already, in real terms, about 50 per cent. higher than in 1951, when we came into power. It was because of our record that the electorate believed us when we stated: We pledge ourselves to ensure that pensioners continue to share in the good things which a steadily expanding economy will bring. That pledge was repeated by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister as recently as 26th November.

The hon. Member for Islington, North referred to the pensioner's increases in relation to rises in earnings. I presume that when he spoke of the increased purchasing power of the wage earner, he was dealing with industrial earnings and not with industrial wages. If, however, we take the period during which my right hon. Friends have had charge of the economy, from October, 1951, until April, 1959, which is the date of the latest figures I have been able to discover, earnings of men have risen by 58 per cent. and women's earnings by 52 per cent. The single person's pension is up by 67 per cent. and the pension of a married couple is up by 62 per cent.

We are determined to do more, but we cannot distribute wealth until we have first created it, otherwise the result is inflation. The economy is expanding by 7 or 8 per cent. over the level of a year ago. We are now creating the wealth. We have pledged ourselves to distribute it fairly. It would be excessively foolish of us to start to distribute it now before we have created it. That would mean a return to inflation, and inflation is the pensioner's worst enemy.

It is easy to make promises after an election. Indeed, hon. Members opposite seemed to find it fairly easy during the election campaign as well. Under the proposed Bill, they apparently promise to provide immense increases in National Insurance benefits and increases, which, the hon. Member admits, would have to be a concomitant of the Bill, in National Assistance and industrial injuries benefit. At the same time, we have been told by hon. Members opposite that Income Tax would not be increased and Purchase Tax would actually be reduced. It was to the honour of the electorate that they were not prepared to be taken in by specious promises and bribes of that kind. The fact remains that, in relation to pension promises, the arithmetic of right hon. and hon. Members opposite did not add up during the election and it does not add up now.

Therefore, I ask the House to reject the Motion. If it is given a First Reading and stands upon the Order Paper, it will cruelly delude pensioners into believing that an increase is just around the corner. That an increase will come if our economy continues to expand, we know from the words of my right hon. Friend the Prime

Minister and our election pledge. First, however, we have to create the wealth. Otherwise, if we distribute it before we create it, we merely have to print more, and that is the gateway to inflation. I do not believe that that is a gateway which, for easy political popularity, this House will wish to enter.

Question put, pursuant to Standing Order No. 12 (Motions for leave to bring in Bills and nomination of Select Committees at commencement of Public Business):

The House divided: Ayes 181, Noes 262.

Division No. 22.] AYES [4.5 p.m.
Ainsley, William Hamilton, William (West Fife) Oswald, Thomas
Albu, Austen Hannan, William Owen, Will
Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.) Hart, Mrs. Judith Paget, R. T.
Allen, Scholefield (Crewe) Hayman, F. H. Parker, John (Dagenham)
Awbery, Stan Healey, Denis Parkin, B. T. (Paddington, N.)
Bacon, Miss Alice Henderson, Rt. Hon. Arthur (Rwly Regis) Pavitt, Laurence
Baxter, William (Stirlingshire, W.) Herbison, Miss Margaret Pearson, Arthur (Pontypridd)
Beaney, Alan Hewitson, Capt. M. Peart, Frederick
Ballenger, Rt. Hon. F. J. Hill, J. (Midlothian) Pentland, Norman
Bence, Cyril (Dunbartonshire, E.) Hilton, A. V. Popplewell, Ernest
Benn, Hn. A. Wedgwood (Brist'l, S. E.) Holt, Arthur Price, J. T. (Westhoughton)
Benson, Sir George Houghton Douglas Probert, Arthur
Bevan, Rt. Hn. Aneurin (Ebbw V.) Howell, Charles A. Proctor, W. T.
Blackburn, F. Hoy, James H. Randall, Harry
Blyton, William Hughes, Emrys (S. Ayrshire) Rankin, John
Bowden, Herbert W. (Leics, S.W.) Hughes, Hector (Aberdeen, N.) Redhead, E. C.
Bowen, Roderic (Cardigan) Hunter, A. E. Reid, William
Boyden, James Hynd, H. (Accrington) Reynolds, G. W.
Braddock, Mrs. E. M. Hynd, John (Attercliffe) Rhodes, H.
Brockway, A. Fenner Irvine, A. J. (Edge Hill) Robens, Rt. Hon. Alfred
Brown, Alan (Tottenham) Irving, Sydney (Dartford) Roberts, Albert (Normanton)
Brown, Rt. Hon. George (Belper) Jay, Rt. Hon. Douglas Roberts, Goronwy (Caernarvon)
Brown, Thomas (Ince) Jeger, George Robinson, Kenneth (St. Pancras, N.)
Callaghan, James Johnson, Carol (Lewisham, S.) Rogers, G. H. R. (Kensington, N.)
Carmichael, James Jones, Rt. Hn. A. Creech (Wakefield) Ross, William
Castle, Mrs. Barbara Jones, Dan (Burnley) Royle, Charles (Salford, West)
Chetwynd, George Jones, J. Idwal (Wrexham) Shinwell, Rt. Hon. E.
Cliffe, Michael Jones, T. W. (Merioneth) Short, Edward
Craddock, George (Bradford, S.) Kelley, Richard Silverman, Julius (Aston)
Crossman, R. H. S. Key, Rt. Hon. C. W. Skeffington, Arthur
Cullen, Mrs. Alice King, Dr. Horace Slater, Joseph (Sedgefield)
Darling, George Lawson, George Smith, Ellis (Stoke, S.)
Davies, Rt. Hn. Clement (Montgomery) Lee, Frederick (Newton) Sorensen, R. W.
Davies, Harold (Leek) Lee, Miss Jennie (Cannock) Spriggs, Leslie
Davies, Ifor (Gower) Lipton, Marcus Steele, Thomas
Davies, S. O. (Merthyr) Loughlin, Charles Stewart, Michael (Fulham)
Deer, George Mabon, Dr. J. Dickson Stonehouse, John
Dempsey, James McCann, John Stones, William
Donnelly, Desmond MacColl, James Strachey, Rt. Hon. John
Driberg, Tom McInnes, James Stross, Dr. Barnett (Stoke-on-Trent, C.)
Dugdale, Rt. Hon. John Mackie, John Swain, Thomas
Ede, Rt. Hon. Chuter MacMillan, Malcolm (Western Isles) Swingler, Stephen
Edwards, Robert (Bilston) MacPherson, Malcolm (Stirling) Sylvester, George
Evans, Albert Mahon, Simon Taylor, Bernard (Mansfield)
Fernyhough, E. Mallalieu, J. P. W. (Huddersfield, E.) Taylor, John (West Lothian)
Finch, Harold Manuel, A. C. Thompson, Dr. Alan (Dunfermline)
Fraser, Thomas (Hamilton) Mapp, Charles Thomson, G. M. (Dundee, E.)
Gaitskell, Rt. Hon. Hugh Marquand, Rt. Hon. H. A. Timmons, John
George, Lady Megan Lloyd Marsh, Richard Tomney, Frank
Gooch, E. G. Mason, Roy Wade, Donald
Gordon Walker, Rt. Hon. P. C. Mendelson, J. J. Warbey, William
Gourlay, Harry Millan, Bruce Watkins, Tudor
Greenwood, Anthony Monslow, Walter Wells, Percy (Faversham)
Grey, Charles Moody, A. S. White, Mrs. Eirene
Griffiths, David (Rother Valley) Mulley, Frederick Wilkins, W. A.
Griffiths, Rt. Hon. James (Llanelly) Neal, Harold Willey, Frederick
Hale, Leslie (Oldham, W.) Oliver, G. H. Williams, Rev. Ll. (Abertillery)
Hall, Rt. Hon. Glenvil (Colne Valley) Oram, A. E. Williams, W. R. (Openshaw)
Willis, E. G. (Edinburgh, E.) Woodburn, Rt. Hon. A. Zilliacus, K.
Wilson, Rt. Hon. Harold (Huyton) Woof, Robert
Winterbottom, R. E. Yates, Victor (Ladywood) TELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Mr. C. Pannell and Mr. Prentice.
Agnew, Sir Peter Godber, J. B. Maddan, Martin
Aitken, W. T. Goodhart, Philip Maginnis, John E.
Allason, James Goodhew, Victor Maitand, Cdr. J. W.
Alport, C. J. M. Gower, Raymond Markham, Major Sir Frank
Amory, Rt. Hn, D. Heathcoat (Tiv'tn) Grant, Rt. Hon. William (Woodside) Marlowe, Anthony
Arbuthnot, John Green, Alan Marten, Neil
Balniel, Lord Gresham Cooke, R. Mathew. Robert (Honiton)
Barlow, Sir John Grimston, Sir Robert Maudling, Rt. Hon. Reginald
Barter, John Grosvenor, Lt.-Col. R. G. Mawby, Ray
Batsford, Brian Gurden, Harold Maydon, Lt.-Cmdr. S. L. C.
Bell, Philip (Bolton, E.) Hamilton, Michael (Wellingborough) Mills, Stratton
Bennett, F. M. (Torquay) Harris, Frederic (Croydon, N.W.) Molson, Rt. Hon. Hugh
Berkeley, Humphry Harrison, Brian (Maydon) Montgomery, Fergus
Bevins, Rt. Hon. Reginald (Toxteth) Harrison, Col. J. H. (Eye) Moore, Sir Thomas
Biggs-Davison, John Harvey, Sir Arthur Vere (Macclesf'd) Morgan, William
Birch, Rt. Hon. Nigel Harvey, John (Walthamstow, E.) Morrison, John
Bishop, F. P. Harvie Anderson, Miss Nabarro, Gerald
Black, Sir Cyril Hay, John Nicholson, Sir Godfrey
Bossom, Clive Heald, Rt. Hon. Sir Lionel Noble, Michael
Bourne-Arton, A. Henderson, John (Cathcart) Nugent, Richard
Box, Donald Henderson-Stewart, Sir James Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. D.
Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hon. John Hendry, A. Forbes Orr, Capt. L. P. S.
Boyle, Sir Edward Hicks Beach, Maj. W. Osborn, John (Hallam)
Brains, Bernard Hiley, Joseph Osborne, Cyril (Louth)
Brewis, John Hill, Dr. Rt. Hon. Charles (Luton) Page, Graham
Bromley-Davenport, Lt.-Col. W. H. Hill, J. E. B. (S. Norfolk) Partridge, E.
Brooke, Rt. Hon. Henry Hinchingbrooke, Viscount Pearson, Frank (Clitheroe)
Brooman-White, R. Hocking, Philip N. Peel, John
Browne, Percy (Torrington) Holland, Philip Peyton, John
Bryan, Paul Holland-Martin, Christopher Pickthorn, Sir Kenneth
Bullard, Denys Hollingworth, John Pitman, I. J.
Burden, F. A. Hope, Rt. Hon. Lord John Pitt, Miss Edith
Campbell, Gordon (Moray & Nairn) Hopkins, Alan Pott, Percivall
Carr, Compton (Barons Court) Hornby, R. P. Powell, J. Enoch
Carr, Robert (Mitcham) Hornsby-Smith, Rt. Hon. Patricia Price, David (Eastleigh)
Chanson, H. P. G. Howard, Gerald (Cambridgeshire) Prior, J. M. L.
Chataway, Christopher Howard, Hon. G. R. (St. Ives) Prior-Palmer, Brig. Sir Otho
Chichester-Clark, R. Hughes Hallett, Vice-Admiral John Profumo, John
Clark, Henry (Antrim, N.) Hughes-Young, Michael Proudfoot, Wilfred
Clark, William (Nottingham, S.) Hulbert, Sir Norman Ramsden, James
Clarke, Brig. Terence (Portsmth, W.) Hurd, Sir Anthony Rawlinson, Peter
Cleaver, Leonard Hutchison, Michael Clark Redmayne, Rt. Hon. Martin
Cole, Norman Iremonger, T. L. Rees, Hugh
Collard, Richard Jackson, John Renton, David
Cooke, Robert James, David Ridley, Hon. Nicholas
Cooper, A. E. Johnson, Dr. Donald (Carlisle) Ridsdale, Julian
Cooper-Key, E. M. Johnson, Eric (Blackley) Robertson, Sir David
Cordeaux, Lt.-Col. J. K. Johnson Smith, Geoffrey Robinson, Sir Roland (Blackpool, S.)
Cordle, John Jones, Rt. Hn. Aubrey (Hall Green) Roots, William
Costain, A. P. Kerans, Cdr. J. S. Ropner, Col. Sir Leonard
Coulson, J. M. Kerby, Capt. Henry Royle, Anthony (Richmond, Surrey)
Critchley, Julian Kerr, Sir Hamilton Russelle, Ronald
Crosthwalte-Eyre, Col. O. E. Kershaw, Anthony Sandys, Rt. Hon. Duncan
Cunningham, Knox Kitson, Timothy Scott-Hopkins, James
Curran, Charles Lambton, Viscount Seymour, Leslie
Dance, James Lancaster, Col. C. G. Sharples, Richard
Deedes, W. F. Langford-Holt, J. Skeet, T.H.H.
de Ferranti, Basil Leather, E. H. C. Smith, Dudley(Br'ntf'rd & Chiswick)
Digby, Simon Wingfield Leburn, Gilmour Smithers, Peter
Donaldson, Cmdr. C. E. M. Legge-Bourke, Maj. H. Smyth, Brig. Sir John (Norwood)
Doughty, Charles Legit, Hon. Peter (Petersfield) Soames, Rt. Hon. Christopher
Drayson, G. B. Lewis, Kenneth(Rutland) Speir, Rupert
Duncan, Sir James Lilley, F.J.P. Stanley, Hon. Richard
Duthie, Sir William Lindsay, Martin Stevens, Geoffrey
Elliott, R.W. Linstead, Sir Hugh Stodart, J.A.
Emmet, Hon. Mrs. Evelyn Litchfield, Capt. John Stoddart-Scott, Col. Sir Malcolm
Errington, Sir Eric
Farey-Jones, F. W. Longden, Gilbert Storey, S.
Farr, John Loveys, Walter H. Studholme, Sir Henry
Finlay, Graeme Low, Rt. Hon. Sir Hugh Summers, Sir Spencer (Aylesbury)
Fisher, Nigel Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Sumner, Donald (Orpington)
Fletcher-Cooke, Charles McAdden, Stephen Talbot, John E.
Fraser, Hn. Hugh (Stafford & Stone) MacArthur, Ian Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne)
Fraser, Ian (Plymouth, Sutton) McLaren, Martin Teeling, William
Gammans, Lady McLaughlin, Mrs. Patricia Temple, John M.
George, J. C. (Pollok) McLean, Neil (Inverness) Thatcher, Mrs. Margaret
Glover, Douglas MacLeod, John (Ross & Cromarty) Thomas, Leslie (Canterbury)
Glyn, Dr. Alan (Clapham) Macmillan, Rt. Hn. Harold (Bromley) Thomas, Peter
Glyn, Col. Richard H. (Dorset, N.) Macpherson, Niall (Dumfries) Thompson, Kenneth (Walton)
Thompson, Richard (Croydon, S.) Vosper, Rt. Hon. Dennis Wills, Sir Gerald (Bridgwater)
Thornton-Kemsley, Sir Colin Wakefield, Edward(Derbyshire, W.) Wilson Geoffrey (Truro)
Tiley, Arthur (Bradford, W.) Wall, Patrick Wise, Alfred
Tilney, John (Wavertree) Ward, Rt. Hon. George (Worcester) Wolrige-Gordon, Patrick
Turton, Rt. Hon. R. H. Watts, James Woodhouse, C. M.
Tweedsmuir, Lady Webster, David Woodnutt, Mark
van Straubenzee, W. R. Wells, John (Maidstone) Worsley, Marcus
Vane, W. M. F. Whitelaw, William Yates, William (The Wrekin)
Vaughan-Morgan, J. K. Williams, Dudley (Exeter)
Vickers, Miss Joan Williams, Paul (Sunderland, S.) TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Sir R. Cary and Mr. Freeth