HC Deb 16 May 1805 vol 5 cc8-10

Mr. Leycester reported from the select committee, to whom the tenth report of the commissioners of naval enquiry (respecting the office of the treasurer of his majesty's navy) is referred, to enquire into the application of any monies issued to the treasurer of the navy for naval services to purposes not naval, and whether any and what representations were made to the lords commissioners of his majesty's treasury, or the chancellor of the exchequer, respecting the withdrawing from the bank any sums of money so issued since the passing of the act of 25 Geo. III c. 31; and also, into the proceedings had for the recovery of the debt due to the crown by the late Adam Jellicoe; that the committee had directed him to report to the house, "that, upon a full consideration of the restrictions and limitations contained in the minutes of conference, it does not appear to the committee that they can effectually or satisfactorily proceed to the examination of lord viscount Melville for the purposes of the enquiry referred to them, without trenching upon the regulations under which lord viscount Melville has been permitted to come before them;" and he read the report in his place, and afterwards delivered it in at the table, where the same was read. Ordered, that the said report do lie upon the table.—Sir J. Stewart moved, that a message might be sent to the lords, requesting permission for lord St. Vincent to attend the committee appointed to take into consideration the repairs of the Romney and Sensible, while under the orders of sir Home Popham. Ordered.—Mr. Huskisson, pursuant to notice, moved for the appointment of a committee to consider how far it may be expedient to allow coals to a limited extent to be brought to London by the grand Junction and Paddington Canals, upon payment of the same rates and duties as are now paid on coals brought to the city of London coastways. A conversation ensued, in which Mr. Burdon desired the house to be on their guard against any measure of this nature in which the committee of management of the canals was interested, as also against any interference with a trade which formed so great a nursery for seamen. Sir M. W. Ridley declared that the proposed measure would strike at the root of a trade upon which the employment and support of the 100,000 seamen, that were now fighting the battles of their country, would on the return of peace in a great measure depend; and Mr. Curwen expressed a wish that as the subject was of importance, a sufficient time would be given to consider, it maturely. The committee was then appointed.—Admiral Markham, pursuant to notice, submitted a string of motions, relative to the state and strength of the navy, the state of the dock-yards, of the stores in the naval arsenals, the number and tonnage of his majesty's navy, the number of ships built in his majesty's yards and in private yards, the number of ships captured from the enemy, the expence of prime cost and repairs of a ship of the line, together with a variety of other details, connected with the naval department during the administration of lord St. Vincent and since; all which were agreed to with the exception of one, "for a copy of the contract or agreement entered into by the navy board with John Larkin, for a supply of foreign timber, dated 15th of May, 1804;" which, on the suggestion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer was withdrawn, to prevent the disclosure of the sources whence the supply of timber for the British navy was derived, with an understandingg, however, that if it should be found necessary, the motion might hereafter be renewed.— Mr. Johnstone moved for an account of the sums received from the sale of old stores, and as droits of admiralty, which he conceived to be applicable to public purposes, and amounted to about 100,000l. from the 1st Jan. 1803, to the latest period the same could be made out, together with the application of the same. The account was ordered, after an observation from the chancellor of the exchequer, that these sums were not by law available to any purposes of the public expenditure.— Lord Henry Petty stated, that, from circumstances which had not depended on himself, he found himself under a necessity of postponing the motion of which he had given notice for tomorrow, relative to the places held by lord Melville in Scotland; from the advanced period of the session, he thought it likely that he should not bring forward that motion this session, but this delay was not to be looked upon as any abandonment of his object.— A petition of Daniel Delisle Brock, esq. one of the jurats of the royal court of the island of Guernsey, on behalf of himself, and also as the deputy hi this behalf specially appointed by the states of the said island, at a meeting of the said states on the day of January last, was presented to the house, and read; taking notice of the bill for the more effectual prevention of smuggling; and setting forth, "that the provisions of the said bill, it passed into a law, and enforced in the said island, will in many particulars prove highly oppressive and injurious to the people of the said island; and therefore praying, in behalf of himself and of the states and people of the said island, that he and they may be heard, by their counsel, agents, and witnesses, against such parts of the said bill as may affect the said island of Guernsey; and that the same may not pass into a law, as it now stands." Ordered, that the said petition be referred to the consideration of the committee of the whole house to whom the said bill is recommitted; and that the petitioner be heard, by his counsel, agents, and witnesses, before the said committee, upon his petition, if he thinks fit.— Mr. Loveden, pursuant to notice, after stating that the amount of unclaimed dividends on the public funds, at the bank of England and south-sea house, was 800,0001. sterling, moved, that there be laid before the house an account of the amount of dividends on public funds at the bank and south-sea house, receivable on or before the 1st of Oct. 1800, and 1802, respectively, and which remained unclaimed on the 31st of Dec. following. Also, a list of the names of such proprietors of property in the public funds, at the bank of England, or the south-sea house, on which dividends are due, and now unclaimed. Ordered.